Join us on Wild Horse Wednesdays®, this Wednesday, Sept. 20, 2017
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Our guests today are Cathy Liss (Pres.) and D.J. Schubert (Wildlife Biologist) of Animal Welfare Institute (AWI). We’ll be talking about the USDA’s Wildlife Services (an out of control killing program that kills approximately 5 million animals each year in the name of “managing problems caused by wildlife”), endangered species, wildlife issues and wild horse & burro issues.
Since 1951, the Animal Welfare Institute has been dedicated to reducing animal suffering caused by people.
AWI brochure (2011) Managing for Extinction
AWI Report (2012) Overview of the Management of Wild Horses & Burros
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1/8/17 – Carol Walker, Dir. of Field Documentation for Wild Horse Freedom Federation on BLM’s dangerous Radio Collar Study on the Adobe Town wild horses in Wyoming. Listen HERE.
2/15/17 – Marjorie Farabee, Dir. of Wild Burro Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation and donkey advocate David Duncan (Donkey Rescue World), talk about the killing of the world’s donkeys for ejiao. Listen HERE.
3/8/17 – Marjorie Farabee, Dir. of Wild Burro Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation and Australian donkey advocate Andrea Jenkins, a member of Good Samaritan Donkey Sanctuary, on the ejiao issue in Australia. Listen HERE.
4/12/17 – Dawn Vincent, Head of Communications for The Donkey Sanctuary UK, and Marjorie Farabee, Dir. of Wild Burro Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation. In January 2017, The Donkey Sanctuary (UK) issued a report titled “Under the Skin,” about the global demand for donkey skins used to produce a traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) called ejiao. Listen HERE.
5/24/17 – ELAINE NASH, Founder and Dir. of Fleet of Angels, and Palomino Armstrong, founder of CHILLY PEPPER – MIRACLE MUSTANG, on the logistics of the rescue of the ISPMB horses and about the many wild horses that still need to be adopted. Listen HERE.
6/14/27 – Nancy Turner, Pres. of This Old Horse, a Minnesota nonprofit organization whose mission is to provide sanctuary to retired, rescued, and recovering horses, and Elaine Nash, Founder and Dir. of Fleet of Angels, a not-for-profit organization offering crisis management and transportation assistance during equine-related emergencies, talk about the ISPMB horses that still need to be adopted. Listen HERE.
6/21/17 – Bonnie Gestring, Northwest Circuit Rider for Earthworks, on contamination of U.S. waters in perpetuity, caused by mining. Bonnie is co-author of the report Polluting the Future: How mining companies are polluting our nation’s waters in perpetuity. Listen HERE.
6/28/17 – Neda DeMayo, Founder and President, and Cory Golden, Advocacy & Communications Director, of Return to Freedom, on the need for ALL of us to urge Congress to stand against a presidential budget proposal that threatens the lives of tens of thousands of horses. Listen HERE.
7/8/17 – Ginger Kathrens (Founder and Exec. Dir. of The Cloud Foundation), John Holland (Pres. of Equine Welfare Alliance), Katlin Kraska (Equine Lobbyist for ASPCA), Cory Golden (Advocacy Coordinator for Return to Freedom), and R.T. Fitch, (Pres. of Wild Horse Freedom Federation), on what you can do to help save the wild horses & burros from slaughter from language in the 2018 Budget. Listen HERE.
7/12/17 – Gayle Hunt, President & Founder of the Central Oregon Wild Horse Coalition, on their efforts to preserve the wild horses on the Big Summit HMA, in the Ochoco National Forest, about 30 miles east of Prineville, Oregon. Listen HERE.
8/16/17 – Ginger Kathrens, Founder and Exec. Dir. of The Cloud Foundation, and member of the BLM’s National Wild Horse & Burro Advisory Board and Carol Walker, Dir. of Field Documentation, Wild Horse Freedom Federation. Listen HERE.
8/23/17 – Terri Farley, best selling author of the Phantom Stallion series for young readers and Susan Wagner, President & Founder of Equine Advocates, on the 2018 Budget threat to kill over 46,000 wild horses and burros, the National Horse and Burro Rangeland Management Coalition Summit (aka the “Horse Killer Summit”), Protect the Harvest, secret spaying and more. Listen HERE.
8/30/17 – Ginger Kathrens, Founder and Exec. Dir. of The Cloud Foundation, and member of the BLM’s National Wild Horse & Burro Advisory Board, on language in the 2018 Budget that would mean 46,000 of our wild horses & burros in BLM holding facilities, and tens of thousands more on public lands, would be killed immediately. LISTEN HERE.
9/6/17 – Russ Mead, Esq., the Vice President & General Counsel of Animal Law Coalition, a 501(c)4 that lobbies for legislation in support of animal welfare. Russ talks about wild horses, advocacy, legislation and his efforts to stop horse tripping at rodeos in Oregon. Listen HERE.
9/13/17 – John Holland, Pres. of Equine Welfare Alliance and Simone Netherlands (Pres. of The Salt River Wild Horse Management Group), on stopping horse slaughter from being approved in the U.S., and the Dept. of the Interior’s language in the 2018 Budget to kill over 46,000 wild horses & burros in holding, and tens of thousands more on public lands. Listen HERE.
Categories: Wild Burros, Wild Horses/Mustangs









Yes, USDA WS kills so many animals each year. They want to make an account of my township to kill deer @ $200 – $300/animal. That’s why I call them USDA Wildlife (Dis)Services.
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I thought everyone would be interested in reading AWI’s Myths and Facts on Wild Horses & Burros:
https://awionline.org/content/myths-and-facts-about-wild-horses-and-burros
And here is AWI’s page on Wild Horses as Native North American Wildlife:
https://awionline.org/content/wild-horses-native-north-american-wildlife
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Yes, e-caballus and e-lambei are the same. Favorite line is the last: ‘”As a form of wildlife, embedded with wildness, ancient behavioral patterns, and the morphology and biology of a sensitive prey species, they may finally be released from the “livestock‐gone‐loose” appellation.”‘ Least favorite line is that the horse died out in North America. That doesn’t make sense at all since the horse survived in Asia and eastern Europe. There are very few horse bones, because the soil is acidic except in limestone caves. Except southern California for one place and many more.
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Thanks for posting this Debbie.
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This was another excellent and very informative show.
This is one of the topics that was discussed.
There is something called the Public Trust Doctrine.
From ANIMAL WELFARE INSTITUTE
In the U.S., by law, wildlife is considered a public trust resource meaning that all free-ranging wildlife are “owned” by the public and that, therefore, those agencies responsible for wildlife management must make management decisions consistent with the needs and interests of all citizens. Wildlife management responsibilities are undertaken, with limited exceptions, by the individual state wildlife agencies and a handful of federal agencies.
https://awionline.org/content/lethal-vs-non-lethal-control
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Every single day more of our Heritage is removed for our public lands at tax payer expense. The BLM budget is spent on an Extraction industry to convert our protected FREE ROAMING wildlife species into a commodity for warehousing, sale and euthanasia. Options that are available, and even mandated provide for adding our herds to state fish and game inventories of non game special status species. Funds for Re Wilding are available.
The core of funding comes from the Wildlife Restoration Act aka Pittman-Robertson Act through specifically dedicated sources such as hunting permit fees and a special federal excise tax on products used by hunters and fishermen. Of more recent vintage are tax refund programs adopted by states to provide funding for many programs in support of non-game animals. https://www.animallaw.info/article/american-wildlife-law-introduction
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Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Kathleen.
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