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Famed Cinematographer Speaks Out on Wild Horses

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Ginger Kathrens speaks on: “Removing Horses From the Wild”

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  1. Awesome informative video, Ginger presents our Mustangs beautifully, Thank You Ginger, this video should be sent to everyone , and I will send to everyone I know……..Including all Senators in Ohio…….

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  2. I LOVE Trace. Trace is the beautiful blue roan that you see Ginger riding. He has a black head. Yep he’s all that and a whole lot more!

    Sax looks like he’s doing well. Thank the man upstairs that some people with a whole lotta common sense took the Pryor horses in.

    Now we gotta figure out how to get that ugly fence taken down that separates the range from Forest Service lands. The way I see it–my tax dollars pay for both. Why is no one listening to what I want?

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  3. This video is breath taking..I really don’t see any starved horses here. They are beautiful and thriving..The little foals are priceless. I can’t for the life of me understand how people can harm these beautiful horses. I am with Margaret, why is NO ONE LISTENING? The travesty is that MY TAX DOLLARS AND EVERYONE ELSE’S is being used for this carneige..This was an excellent video and I too shall pass this along to my Representative and Senators. Our voices can’t and shall never be silent until they are truly FREE! Again, thank you Ginger for an excellent piece honoring our Wild Horses..

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  4. I, too, am convinced that most Americans don’t even know that we have Wild Horses and Burros. We had better let them all know before it is too late.

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    • Why do you think the BLM never shows the American people the beauty of the wild horses in the wild? They don’t want them to know about them. 99% of Americans have no idea what the BLM is doing to them. And that is their strategy. To entrust the stewardship program of wild horses with people who hold contempt for them is just plain wrong.

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    • I agree Louie! I just talked to a lady yesterday and told her I was trying to help save the wild horses and she asked ” There are wild horses?” So many American’s do not know so how can they care if they don’t know. We must get out the word.

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  5. “Need To Know”, “POV” are good PBS news magazine shows. I wait for the day this issue gets on “FRONTLINE”.

    Thanks NTK, Ms Kathrens for this feature…thanks RT for putting it up for those that missed it on PBS.

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  6. ACTION ALERT
    This is where we need to come in…at the beginning of the planning phase:

    http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6931/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8028

    SIX DAYS LEFT TO HELP WYOMING MUSTANGS IN BIGHORN BASIN PLANNING AREA

    Comments Due: Wednesday, September 7th
    The U.S. Interior Department’s Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is accepting comments on its draft revision for the Bighorn Basin Resource Management Plan (RMP) developed by the Cody and Worland BLM Field Offices in Wyoming. The 5.6 million acre planning area includes the McCullough Peaks and Fifteenmile wild horse Herd Management Areas (HMAs). Also included are five Herd Areas (HAs) that the BLM has “zeroed out” for wild horse use, primarily to make room for private livestock grazing.

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    • And gas leasing which is taking over the landscape in huge areas of Wyoming. This will drive off the cattle eventually as ground water is polluted.

      I love Wyoming and lived there when I was young and strong. It is beginning to die.

      Lovely work, Ginger. Thanks PBS for showing this… now they need to show it during a ratings week!

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  7. How very interesting, I love the wild horses and just hate what is happening to them ! Ginger Kathrens is so informed and just the kind of person we need helping the wild herds ! God Bless you for your interest and what ever you do to help. I’ve heard of the stallion, Cloud, and now I got to see him, this is great. Thanks . Shirlee Coy

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  8. I worked for the BLM for almost 12 years in their wild horse program. I left when I was told one time too many to lie about wild horses in a small herd in NW Colorado; the West Douiglas herd. The BLM is a government agency run, like our other government agencies, by money, power and lobby groups. The wild horse program is not about integration of our wild horses as one of BLM’s multiple uses, but is about maintaining the bare minimum of animals needed to semi-silence the public and to semi-adhere to the Wild Horse Annie Act. In the West Douglas herd the BLM spent hundreds of thousands in court and on the ground trying to close this herd. Had this money been spent on range improvements, PR of the history of this unique herd and a pro-active approach of integrated management of the lands inhabited by this small herd tax dollars would have been well-spent, and this herd would today continue to thrive in its historic niche. I have the greatest respect for our wild horses. I have spent many hours observing, learning from them and laughing and shaking my head at their survival and their free-spirited joy of life.

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    • Thank you for your candid comment, we share your pain and frustration.

      It is such a bizarre state of affairs that we, the taxpayers, are paying the BLM to do what we do NOT want done, then we are forced to hire lawyers out of our own pocket in an effort to stop the BLM who then takes additional taxpayer money in an attempt to defend their actions. As I read it, that is TRIPLE taxation.

      Blue, you are right at “West Douglas Central”, here. As President of the Wild Horse Freedom Federation we are the group that is continuing to attempt the legal effort that keeps the West Douglas herd free. For the past two years we have been activily involved and still have our complaint in place via our plaintiffs. Right now, there are a little over 120 horses still running free in north west Colorado but the battle goes on behind the scenes and we DO need help funding our legal team, or all is lost.

      Thanks for stopping in, Blue, and don’t take our frustration with the BLM personally as I know that there are decent folks within their ranks that share our frustration, we have met many but their hands are tied by powers above…so feel free to hang out and chat with us, your real name is safe amongst us.

      Keep the faith.

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      • Cool you still are fighting for the West Douglas horses. Don’t let the local BLM tell you these horses cannot survive because of the O&G development. I have watched these horses use the oil field roads as their own to travel to a different part of their range, use the various structures for shade, and as posts to scratch their behinds, enjoy the seedings in reclaimed areas and water from new found water trapments caused by something as basic as equipment tires getting stuck in the mud. Many of the oil and gas workers enjoy seeing the horses and do not want them gone. It is the old timer BLM-ers in that part of the country who have been trying for years to ‘get rid’ of this herd and who cannot let go of their desire to ‘win out’ over this herd.. And the political prowess of a few big fish in a small pond who also want the horses gone. All gone. So never take no for an answer. Manage for between 60 and 110 horses. Add a few mares every 3 or 4 years to boost the gene pool. Develop the seeps/springs and keep the ponds cleaned out. This is a herd of truly wild horses. I could hike or ride through the aged pinjon for hours and not see a horse but my own horse would be stepping out like he does when he knows wild horses are near-bye. Then I would see a flash of color here or there and know I’d been being observed for some time without seeing my observer. These horses glide through that rocky steep terrain like they are part mountain goat. Small, wirey, subtle grays and bays and sorrels,,,blending into their country. Keep up the good work.

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      • I have seen the same things in the O&G fields in Utah where the horses move about to their seasonal range and to water and find shade and a place to dust bathe near the platforms. Now these horses are going to be removed because BLM claims they have Equine Infectious Anemia. They intend to put these horses up for adoption. That means they are coming into short term holding possibly carrying a disease that is the reason they have been removed to possibly infect others in holding. Where is the proof BLM that these horses of the Winter Ridge HA have been exposed to this disease??? They are on reservation lands… maybe that is why they are going? Like the Crow horses and others to be removed from reservation lands. These are beautiful horses. But then, aren’t they all?

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    • Thanks WldBlue, I see the Wild Horse and Burro Program as another office that has been under-achieving and disappointing to many who would love a career out there helping to manage and Preserve the wild ones. You are not the only one who left. Your words are appreciated here.

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      • What I meant to say is the WH&B program is also a victim of DC decision makers desire to take the land for more and more corporate use for profit.

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      • Hey Mar Wango. I know a herd of tribal horses outside Ft Duschene (sp) in Utah that adjoins a BLM wild horse herd. The reservation land is stunning and somewhat pristeen – they manage(d?) for wildlife and did not have livestock in the portion where I spent time. Elevation goes all the way to about 1200 feet. The reservation in 2002 had a herd of about 150 horses…gorgeous creatures. larger than some wild horses and a wide variety of colors..very sound and healthy. When I helped them catch 50 or 60 they considered excess the tribal council still planned to manage for the 150 or so. Has that changed? Was it this herd diagnosed with EIA or the adjoining BLM herd? I hope the tribe did not close this herd…..

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  9. As a complete aside, I just watched Forks Over Knives about plant based diets and how meat is so unhealthy and the Cornell researcher in the movie states unequivocally that that venerable National Institute of Sciences (I think that’s the name NAS??) is now infiltrated with big corporate money and big Agribusiness interests. They are sitting on committees and serving as committee chairs, swaying their research, what they research and the outcomes. So, if we a holding out hope that a study from them will save the wild horses, we may be in for a big disappointment.

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    • Here is something of great interest from;

      Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

      Ancient DNA reveals late survival of mammoth and horse in interior Alaska

      http://www.pnas.org/content/106/52/22352.full
      ——————————————————————–
      I thought you might be interested in the article I found in the publication: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
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      This is sent to you as an email-a-colleague feature from Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences at http://www.pnas.org

      Linda and I are thinking tis is newer than what we have seen before… Not sure. But is very interesting!! They are sitting on this and Yes, Our wild ones need to be celebrated. We have to save them now, in order to do that!

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  10. Hi Blue, I wish you could testify in court or in D.C. The BLM’s “Managing for Extinction” needs to be exposed. Do you know about PEER ?

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    • Hi Barbara. I know of PEER but only what I have read about the group- no first-hand experience. I’d consider speaking in court on behalf of the West Douglas horses. We can talk about that off site if the time comes around when you want my voice. For now, I’ll continue hopping on over to this website to keep up with what you folks are working on!

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  11. This particular blog–from top to bottom–from video to comments — is so impressive and informative. We want the truth; we want our elected Decision makers and their agencies to work for us and with us– not against us. We want our tax dollars used to preserve and foster what’s good in America; and one of those good things is the wild horse herds–Cloud’s and all the others. “To entrust the stewardship program of wild horses with people who hold contempt for them is just plain wrong.” so true– savewildhorses.

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  12. Is it possible to have Billboard campaigns , full page ads in Newspapers, this is a great way to reach people……. Although in Ohio there are many people who own and love horses , there are many who dont realize there are Wild Mustangs???? There are people here also dont really know that the Mustangs are in such peril…..

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