Source: Michael McNutt of NewsOK.com
Oklahoma Senate approves a horse slaughter measure 32-14
The state Senate on Tuesday approved a bill that would allow horse slaughter in Oklahoma, but would continue the existing ban on the sale of horse meat for consumption in the state.
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The Senate voted 32-14 to pass House Bill 1999. Two senators didn’t vote.
The measure now goes to Gov. Mary Fallin, who has indicated she would sign the bill, which would overturn a 50-year-old ban on horse slaughter.
Senators discussed and debated the bill for about 45 minutes.
Sens. Al McCaffrey, D-Oklahoma City, and Constance Johnson, D-Forest Park, were among those who spoke against the measure, questioning the safety of horse meat that would be slaughtered in Oklahoma and sold for consumption in other countries.
“Why is it OK for us to approve meat that has been contaminated with injections?” she asked.
Sen. Eddie Fields, R-Wynona, the Senate sponsor of HB 1999, said horses are not to be slaughtered until 21 days after receiving their last injection so that the meat is not contaminated.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration would regulate horses being slaughtered in a horse processing plant, he said.
If a horse processing plant would come to Oklahoma, horse owners would not be forced to take them to slaughter, Fields said. The plant would give horse owners another option of what to do with their animals, which are personal property, he said.
Defeating the bill won’t end horse slaughter, Fields said. Oklahoma horses are already being slaughtered; they are being shipped to Mexico and killed in conditions that may be inhumane.
HB 1999 would revoke the state’s 1963 law banning the sale of horse meat and would end the prohibition on horse slaughtering.
McAffrey said after the vote he was disappointed.
“We as senators made a mistake,” he said.
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Straight from the Horse's Heart 
wow.. just wow…
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How very sad.
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Hold them for 21 days!?!? Who is going to care for them for the 21 said days they need to be held???? Who says it is out of there system in 21 days? What a bunch of bull****! LIES LIES LIES!!!! I will never set foot in OK ever again and I was planning on retiring there.
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Me too Judy, I thought it would be a nice place to have horses. Now I’m afraid of what could happen to my horse should he be stolen, even though I’m several hundred miles away.
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This makes me sick!!!..
I am worried about all our Wild Horses being at risk…………………
I am worried about the theft of horses who do have a good home…………..
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I sent a letter to the governor and I told her that I hoped she didn’t send the FBI to investigate me because I disagree with the entire premise that horse slaughter is any where near thinking clearly about what food is aloud in the U.S. Of course, I got a little thing that said it was being withheld due to moderation consideration which means they looked it over real quick and decided it would be worth a vote or a promise of any goodies while she is governor of Oklahoma. Sorry, but sometimes these people act like they deserve respect when they act so disrespectful and without consideration of the actions they do.
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Yes, Senators you have made a mistake. A very big one.
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They realized after they voted and approved the bill they made a mistake. What a bunch of dumbasses!
There is no way to monitor the meat coming out of the slaughterhouses. They would have the test each and every horse that comes through the doors. That would cost too much money, man power, and time. They don’t have any of that. They are just going to push them through and call it good enough for government work and lie, lie, lie. 21 days is not enough to get any contaminates out of a horse’s system. If I recall correctly, either RT posted or I read it in some medical journal somewhere else or both that these contaminates stay in their their bodies forever. I think they know that and are telling uneducated people this to make it sound ok and to get their vote and their approval for them to pass this bill to make this all ok. It is just a load of horseshit. It really and truly is.
And as for the USDA regulating the slaughterhouses for humane slaughtering, that is also a load of horseshit. There is no way period that slaughter a horse, or any animal for that matter, is human. It takes so much for a horse to be killed. So many measures have to be taken to bring that large of an animal to take down. There is nothing humane about slaughter an animal, whether is be a horse, deer, bear, etc. The whole practice of slaughter is inhumane period. The USDA does not have again, the time, money, nor man power plus brains to make this a human situation. Once again, they are just sugar coating it to make uneducated constituents ok with it.
And this all goes back to money. To make sure the money lines the pockets of those who are greedy. Those senators who voted on this I am sure are getting some kind of kick back for voting through on this bill whether by a private donation to further their political careers or some kind of investment in these slaughterhouse when they start to garner some kind of profit. I guarantee it. It is all about money, folks. The all-might American dollar.
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I agree. Hopefully we can determine which foods they start putting horse meat into before we consume them ourselves. I don’t eat SPAM, but don’t be surprised! I’ll make my own food if necessary. I have a small place so I can provide my own food, without the gov. authorizing all of the harmful products they already ok to sell to the consumers as food products.
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My parents have 30 or so head of black angus. We can always get our meat there. They still do the garden too with lots of veggies. Another thing too we are worried about is the aspartame they are trying to sneak into our milk. We have a couple of trustworthy local dairy’s that we can go to if need be. It is better to get milk straight up like that. I am lactose intolerant and surprising, I can drink milk straight from the cow that way with no ill effects compared to getting it from the door where I suffer for days.
If need be, we will go back to the old ways of self-sustainability and homemaking. I have been studying up on it for a few years and it has been done before and we can do it again. The way this world is going, we may all need to learn how to do it or die anyways. Hopefully, we will still have our horses to help us out again in that aspect as they did in the past…
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P.S. With the current state of the economy, there will NOT be any investigations or any thing near what this article said about the FDA or the Dept. of Agri, or any one else inspecting meat. I am not sparking at R.T., I am stating the facts. There will be no meat inspections while this government is under such duress about the fiscal budget. This is just another propaganda statement from the horse slaughter industry and the politicians who have invested in this slaughter business one way or the other – probably from their lobbyists.
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The EU will not accept horsemeat from the USA, so where is the horsemeat going? The governor has already shown her ignorance of the issue saying that it was a “humane” solution to the disposal of old and unwanted horses……shows how much she knows about the subject. She also said she could support the bill so there you go.
This is so very disappointing.
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The old, sick and lame horses that they slaughter goes into the food that is consumed by the people who don’t pay attention. Well, it was just a matter of time before someone slipped through and made this the real deal through the senate. Once the senate passes it, it will slide across the President’s desk like it was on a down hill road to hell…as fast as it can go.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought I read where there has never been a study about the residue of BUTE and how long it lasts. I thought that was why they banned it in food animals. The USDA Inspector General said recently a drug residue audit was submitted last year and she made it sound like they were very concerned about the drugs used on horses. She was being questioned by Sam Farr D of Ca. who is our friend in Congress!
I’ve tried to find a copy of the audit but haven’t spotted it yet…any help would be appreciated. Jo-Claire this is right up your alley!
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Steve, good that you are still here. I have and am still very sick fighting M.S. But, if you remember on WHHC, there was two groups of veterinarians who were fighting against slaughter and stated the drugs in horse meat. Also, the site Beauty’s Haven had an entire blog and statistical research paper for people to send to the politicians. There are others, like Elizabeth Anti-Horseslaughter (lovely friend and lady) who has many years of research under their belts. And, of course, we can’t leave out the journalists who have been researching this for years. And, don’t forget Mike Cox who has a blog and has been working very hard to put the pressure on the federal agencies to stop the abuse and to prove that these agencies and their components have been putting out false evidence and false reports. Of course, there are many others, but these are just a few.
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Great to hear from you my friend!!! Get well…we and the horses need you!
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Steve, I suspect that you’re right: no studies on bute consumption via humans. I’d be very surprised if bute was ever tested on humans, either via direct application or via meat that contains it. Unless there were a financial gain in providing meat from animals given bute …. where’s the incentive for the costs of testing? Shame.
http://www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/medications.php
americanhorsemeat.com/Home.php
http://www.forbes.com/sites/vickeryeckhoff/2012/06/18/how-safe-is-that-horse-meat/3/
And for all the US horses that ship to slaughter in Canadian plants, see Canada’s toxicology concerns. Pity that the stuff is so high-risk, you’d think that a government would act to prevent consumption of it:
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/meavia/man/ch17/annexee.shtml
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Dr Nicholas Dodman of Tufts University, with Dr Ann Marini and Dr Nicolas Blondeau produced their study results in 2010, showing adverse effects of bute in horse meat.
Fools eat horse meat, but I guess that there are people who have no knowledge of how horses are treated/managed/medicated.
See their study at:
Click to access Food-and-Chemical-Toxicology-bute-paper1.pdf
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I believe it was dr. Marini who occasionally posts here the effects of Bute on humans. As I recall Bute was actually prescribed for human consumption way back in the 40’s and just a couple of years later they realized all these cancers were a direct effect of Bute.
But I’m not a doctor so I can’t tell you. I can tell you what I’ve read.
Bute is one drug we keep hearing about. But how about frog juice? Or worming meds?
I want to know what safeguards they are going to put into place to protect horses and burros from slaughter?
BOYCOTT OKLAHOMA!
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Of course EWA has one of the best sites in the world! Here is another report on the drugs found in horses: notice that the people who are primarily for slaughter of horses do not do such a good job in research or at least they don’t report their findings…here is the link:
http://www.thehorse.com/articles/31584/authorities-studying-how-bute-in-horsemeat-affects-humans?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=health-news&utm_campaign=03-26-2013
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I guess no one bothered to tell them that even when slaughter was happening here in the U.S., horses were still being shipped across the borders to Canada and Mexico and will continue to do so.
As for the 21 day waiting period after “injections”, I don’t know who sold them on that load of B.S. Injections of what, and how are they going to monitor that? Last I checked, most horse owners I know, including myself usually give our horses Bute in powdered form…
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If a horse processing plant would come to Oklahoma, horse owners would not be forced to take them to slaughter, Fields said. The plant would give horse owners another option of what to do with their animals, which are personal property, he said.
Nice to know. *sarcasm*
Very disappointing news. It’s a sick society we are living in.
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I wouldn’t advise the horse killers to start partying just yet. Remember the news coming from Equine Welfare Alliance last week that they were told that the EU had banned horse meat coming from the US. And they had planned on the ban since 2011? I wonder if anyone from this gang of horse killers actually bothered to check??
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I think their idea is this: They think that they can make the public believe that the U.S. can produce horse meat safe for consumption, although no other country can…but of course, by the all mighty senate and the politicians they will make it safe by just waving their hands in the air and getting that beauty shot by stating that they are creating jobs in Oklahoma. Of course, they won’t tell the truth, they couldn’t afford to tell the truth about eating horse meat, and even if they did, the public seems to be asleep on the subject.
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No, they don’t care, Barbara. They are just trying to get their runs in and make sure their pockets and others are lined with gold. They don’t care about facts nor regulations. It is the money that they get their rocks off on. Money makes the world go round, remember?
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No kidding they made a mistake! BOYCOTT OKLAHOMA!
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Oklahoma made a mistake when they elected them to the senate and house.
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Really the only thing to do now is to warn the public about what the meat products in various foods may contain and to warn them not to feed this to their children. Of course, this really makes sense, the so called “First Lady” said that she was going to do something like ban potatoes from the school lunch menu and that potatoes shouldn’t be able to be purchased with food stamps – but it’s ok to eat poisoned horse meat people, it makes you one less person that isn’t counted as a citizen and the U.S. has it’s priorities when it comes to who is important. I am so sick of this countries’ politicians.
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I’m hoping that the public will not accept this. I’m hoping that the 60% will come out and protest. We all know that the killers don’t like publicity. I hope that protestors are out there everyday with cameras to record who goes in and out. I’m sure they will make it difficult to see the animals but to get the names and faces of the drivers and kill buyers will make them very nervous. We can’t make this easy for them.
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I have no problem believing that many of them have financial ties to all this.
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In case you missed the post earlier, here is a post in The Horse. Notice how the people who are primarily for horse slaughter don’t give the exact research results and they do not research anything else. The old, sick and lame horses? What about the horses who can be treated for diseases like herpes or anything else, but it can be harmful and fatal to human consumption? Lord save us from our own government! Here is the link:
http://www.thehorse.com/articles/31584/authorities-studying-how-bute-in-horsemeat-affects-humans?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=health-news&utm_campaign=03-26-2013
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We can ultimately thank Obama and the BLM for conspiring to kill horses. Obama in his first. Campaign promised to close horse slaughter but last thanksgiving while we stuffed our collective faces, he reneged on this promise. Now our federally protected wild horses and burros will be on the slaughter train…thanks Obama for all you don’t do…..and pissing away our money on wars so that we have to compromise our schools, airports’ parks! Healthcare and the list goes on…..but those BLM helicopters still fly around rounding up those horses (even knocking them down and landing on them) so that we the taxpayers can pay to keep them in holding pens for slaughter. So the extractive industries and the cattle ranchers (with a ratio of 200+to one) can use our public lands w/o interference. Too many agendas!!!!!!!!
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Susan, I hear this accusation at least once a month and I appreciate your enthusiasm for the horses and against the governments handling of this situation.
Our dear friend Vickery Eckhoff set the record strait some months back. I hope you will read her article “How many Congressmen does it take to screw a horse?”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/vickeryeckhoff/2011/12/21/how-many-congressmen-does-it-take-to-screw-a-horse/
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Steve, I beg to differ with you. Thanksgiving day Obama’s decision to renew horse slaughter was on our local news and I have a hard copy of our newspaper….now backed up by the BLM’s repeated actions…one and one does indeed equal 2. I have been following the Blm’s actions for quite awhile now including the recent 2 day BLM wild horse and burros advisory board meeting in Oklahoma which was a total sham and in the literally last 5 minutes of the meeting slaughter was brought up, dismissed and the meeting closed.
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My comments to the governor of Oklahoma were posted. Here are my comments, and of course, I fell short of being an expert, but I am not giving up.
Jennie Barron says:
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03/26/2013 at 6:06 pm
I recently read an article which you were giving the statistics about horses concerning this “biotech” idea. Obviously, I am not a pro-slaughter person, and do not and never will understand the need for this government to waste the time on slaughtering horses, which are and never will be completely tested for safe eating here in the U.S. with all of the horses that are sent to slaughter from the racing industry, the people’s pets who have received chemicals that are harmful and even deadly to people; and the fact that this could end up on the shelves as a can of SPAM to be fed to children (of course not YOUR children) is inconsiderate and dangerous of this entire government of the U.S. I refer you to experts like R.T. Fitch and all those who work with him and the other experts who understand the problems that this will cause if these horse slaughter industries continue to push for horse slaughter – which is only about the money in the first place. There are no reasons for horse slaughter in the U.S. and we should and must stop sending our horses to slaughter in other countries. There are many veterinarians who will put a horse down when needed, at a very reasonable cost. If you think that feeding the population sick and feeble old horses is a good advertisement promotion, then you really need to stop and think about what your state is doing. Of course, as Governor, I expect not to receive a letter threatening me with the FBI as in one case of harassment from a proponent of killing horses and showing how they did it on a video – those people who want to slaughter their own horses and are going to force anyone else to accept is as a means of — ?growing our economy? I have studied economics, and this is ridiculous.
Thank you for your time and consideration to this matter. Please make any comments concerning your understanding or lack of understanding about horse slaughter to those professionals who have been studying this for many years, as in R.T. Fitch and the other professionals, i.e. veterinarians who can explain the kinds of drugs in horse meat and the dangers, including death, to those who consume this meat.
Sincerly,
Jennie Barron
Email: jagdb1957@hotmail.com
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Jennie Barron says:
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03/26/2013 at 11:14 pm
Dear Governor Fallin:
I left a comment concerning horse slaughter. I hope you read it. There are many places to find the correct information concerning the drugs found in horse meat, and this is never something to be taken lightly. These drugs, although if researched by the horse slaughter industry they will tell you it is safe after a certain number of days, but the true researchers will tell you that it is never certain about the drugs and how they are retained, as in bute. Of couse, there are other considerations: there are horses with EHV-1 and there will always be those who do not properly test horses. As you well know, our country is going through a financial crisis and the idea that this horse meat will be inspected any better than any other meat is ridiculous. Horses have been and always will be treated with drugs that are different that cattle.
It is safe to say that slaughtering horses is inhumane at the least. In most of these auctions, even mini horses are sold to slaughter, along with foals. Of course, there are those heartless individuals who call foals “filly fillet” and other such obscene names. There is no safe way to slaughter a horse as horses are not built like cattle. They do not have a way to kill them and are often alive when they are being butchered. Of course, you may not like reading this, but it is better you know the facts as you are about to embark on the cruelest action taken in this country after the government noted that horse slaughter was inhumane several years ago and made a commitment to stop horse slaughter in the U.S. That too, as most government promises, have been thrown out.
Your state must also think of the disaster it will cause in the water system. You think that butchering cattle is bad, the horse slaughter industry have never been one to be able to properly dispose of all of the blood as huge ponds of blood are collected as in a cesspool. There is not going to be any truth in the inspections of horse slaughter, no truth in the inspections of the meat, and no truth in the disposal of the blood of these animals as it sinks into the water table.
I live in Arkansas. I hope that nothing that flows as in a river and/or stream comes this way from Oklahoma. I will be contacting my own representatives concerning these problems.
I am surely disappointed. I lived in Oklahoma and worked on Altus Air Force base. I am glad that I do not live there any more and I will never return unless it is impossible to get to anywhere unless I go THROUGH Oklahoma.
Sincerely,
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What is wrong with these people????? Have they all lost their minds????? Can they read there is so much info of the Horrors of when Horse Slaughter Comes to Town, It will be the downfall of Oklahoma,!!!!!!!!!!! People there need to stand up to these Brainless Imbecilic Idiots……………… And SAY it Loud and clear NO!!!!
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We need a serious boycott of all , especially processed, meat products!!!,All fast food restaurants……, for God sakes they even found horsemeat in chicken nuggets and our pet food industry too ….do they really buy animal carcasses in bulk????? including euthanized pets and road kill????? What are we feeding ourselves our children and our pets??? my GOD,…. the corporate greed and insanity must stop!!!!!!!!!!!We are a sad excuse of a nation,sad,sad,sad.
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Just think of the children of Oklahoma; on their way to school, they will see truckloads of beautiful horses headed to the slaughter plant. The children will wonder who planted those seeds of depression, anxiety, sadness and despair within them that they feel when they see these trucks. I think Oklahoma should be ready for a lot of depressed children and adults. I believe that alone should be enough to stop horse slaughter to keep the children of Oklahoma innocent The children know that as Americans we don’t eat horse meat and secondly we don’t eat our pets or even someone else’s pet. Children for the most part are kind, loving and they love everything from horses to baby birds, it will be very depressing for them to know their State sponsors such hatred for horses.
Children now a days are so much more stressed than I was as a child in the sixties. They will learn the world is a whole lot more scary than they ever thought, as now pets can be just sent to slaughter when the owner wants to make a buck. They will learn the world is cruel and God Forbid if some of the children learn to be cruel just like adults, (they probably will).
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Not only will these precious children see this, if they are near enough, which will almost be impossible not to be near enough, they will also hear their screams of terror. That’s enough to keep any child up at night and have many more children in counseling. Way to go government: another way to help the psychiatrists make another dollar on children by giving them drugs their little bodies can’t handle. Horse slaughter is one of the most idiotic things that has ever been done since the U.S. became known as the U.S.
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no horse slaughter plant will open if safe act hr 1094 passes, and I hope it does. you might be able to challenge HB 1999 in court that’s what the horse slaughter plants did when texas and illinois passed there state laws
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I forgot to put that the slaughter plants challenged texas and illinois state laws when they banned horse slaughter, and maybe someone can challenge HB 1999 and try to get the court to strike down Hb 1999 and uphold oklahoma law banning horse slaughter, no wonder the republicans are losing elections, because they keep passing bad bills, alot of the politians that get arrested for crimes are republicans
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Believe me, this is not about republicans and democrats, although the republicans refused to vote on Mary Landreu’s (D – Louisiana) bill that would have stopped horse slaughter. That is why I was glad that Congressman Moran took up the challenge. But, this slaughter proposal is very enticing to the money hungry, and that is including MANY democrats, including those of my own state. Right now there is an extreme problem with helping veterans and those who are active duty who return from war with PTSD and TBI and these veterans would be helped extremely by programs that involve horses and such programs as Parnelli (probably didn’t spell that right) training and just recently I found another program teaching other techniques that would benefit not only horses that need to be trained before they are sold, but would benefit the health of the soldiers and the horses. These types of programs would be more cost effective than these slaughter industry programs because the government has to pay not only for the inspections, but the city will have to pay for the disposal and refuse eventually, the water supply will become a problem. Trucking in water for a city will be extremely expensive. But, like I said, this is not a republican problem, it is a greed problem and a problem with making these politicians tell the public the truth and standing by their commitments to serve the people of this nation with forthright intentions, truth, and protecting the lives of the people they serve.
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Where is OK going with this?
Turmoil over our horsemeat in EU and Russia.
No domestic market?
No USDA approval yet?
With two veteran legislatures introducing the ban of live transport of American horses for slaughter for human consumption just in the last two weeks?
I can’t believe our country would slip this far back from the original ban of horse slaughter since
2007?
Oklahoma legislatures have some real issues by regressing backwards that need to be
addressed and showing the world they are GREEDY SUCKERS!!!
Get in touch with the rest of U.S. Oklahoma…your way out there…
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Its terrible and so depressing to think that we will once again resume this barbaric process of horse slaughter. I too made a comment which was still under modification. Perhaps they do not want the truth expressed and printed by those who had to live with a slaughter plant in their state. We should all protest our national breed association national shows that are held in Oklahoma. These national shows bring in a good piece of change for the state. I for one will not be showing in a state that has a horse slaughter plant. Its a shame because their state tourism is going to suffer. We all need to drop a letter to their tourism bureau and let them know will not be bringing our families to their state. The decision to open a horse slaughter plant over the objections of the state citizens and other Americans is going to have serious ramifications for the state. It appears that their legislators are very selfish and hungry for the blood money horse slaughter will bring. Protesters should be there from day one video taping the trucks as they arrive and the property as well. The community will suffer the effects of the slaughter house as was experienced by Kaufman, Texas and DeKalb, Illinois. We can only hope that Rep.Jim Moran and our other legislators can work with the USDA to find a way to squash the inspections. The livestock industry already in the past year has had recalls of thousands of pounds of meat. Americans are finally realizing that our food sources can be contaminated like that of Europe. Who will be buying the meat if the EU refuses US horses? And where is it all going to go? Oklahoma has put all of our horses (both domestic and wild) and other equines in jeopardy. It appears that the legislators in that state lack the where with all to do their homework with regards to slaughter. If this opens I will always worry about the safety of my horse.
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I don’t know how long she’s been in office, but I’m fairly certain this will be Governor Fallin’s last term.
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Everyone who has commented here…and elsewhere, should email or call the Gov. off with comments….and ask 5 (or more) friends to do the same. Time is running out!
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It’s all about money. Since moving to Oklahoma, I’ve formed the opion that there is the good ole boys group in state government and state legislators are self-serving. I hope horse organizations pull their horse shows out of Oklahoma in protest . Maybe that would get some attention with all of the lost revenue.
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Instead of slaughter – they should be thinking of things like this: http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-virtues-of-stubbornness-mules-at-war/ and other wonderful uses the military and other agencies, including wounded warriors who would greatly be served by the therapy of horses. Of course, there are many who think that pack animals are being abused, but I can tell you this, these people need these pack animals and they will take care of them and are trained to take care of them. Of course there will always be that one person who makes everyone think that all of these people in the military and other organizations (police, etc.) who use horses do not take care of them – the eventually they are weeded out with the rest of the bad apples. Just a thought….pass it on, please. Thanks.
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P.S. The rodeos and some of the “horse organizations” that you are referring to are usually pro-slaughter and will not care if slaughter facilities open up – that is unless it opens up in THEIR neighborhood.
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