Elizabeth Forel of Coalition to Ban Horse Drawn Carriages on Wild Horse & Burro Radio (Wed., 11/11/15)


Wild_Horse_Burro_Radio_LogoJoin us on Wild Horse Wednesday (*SM) , Nov. 11, 2015

6:00 pm PST … 7:00 pm MST … 8:00 pm CST … 9:00 pm EST

Listen to the archived show (HERE!)

or listen to the show live on your phone by calling (917) 388-4520.

This is a 1 hour show.  It will be archived so you can listen to it anytime.


Our guests Wednesday night are Elizabeth Forel (President) and Mary Culpepper (Vice President) of the Coalition to Ban Horse Drawn Carriages, a campaign dedicated to banning the inhumane, unsafe horse-drawn carriages in New York City.  Susan Wagner of Equine Advocates will also join in to tell you about BOBBY II FREEDOM, a former NYC carriage horse previously known as Billy ID# 2873, rescued by the Coalition to Ban Horse-Drawn Carriages and Equine Advocates in 2010 from the New Holland auctions.


Bobby-180 BOBBY II FREEDOM, a former NYC carriage horse previously known as Billy ID# 2873 rescued by the Coalition to Ban Horse-Drawn Carriages and Equine Advocates on June 25, 2010 from the New Holland auctions.

Tonight’s show is hosted by Debbie Coffey, V.P. and Dir. of Wild Horse Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation.

To contact us: ppj1@hush.com, or call 320-281-0585




1/28/15 – John Holland, President of Equine Welfare Alliance, with an update on horse slaughter issues. Listen HERE.

2/11/15 – Ginger Kathrens, Founder and Executive Director of The Cloud Foundation, and Debbie Coffey, V.P. & Dir. of Wild Horse Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation: The PZP debate. Listen HERE.

2/18/15 – Gail Fagan, spokesperson for Help Alberta’s Wildies (HAW), a group of concerned Canadians who have been fighting to save the remaining wild horses, called “wildies,” from being culled in Alberta, Canada. Listen HERE.

2/25/15 – Janine Blaeloch, Founder & Director of Western Lands Project (fighting to keep public lands public) on industrial solar plants, and BLM & Forest Service land swaps. Listen HERE.

3/4/15 – Carol Walker, Dir. of Field Documentation for Wild Horse Freedom Federation with an update of the Wyoming checkerboard case and the captured wild horses. Listen HERE.

3/25/15 – Marjorie Farabee, Dir. of Wild Burro Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation & Sean Paton, founder of BICEPS Bonaire and radio host of Forum Antilles, talk about the endangered donkeys of Bonaire. Listen HERE.

4/8/15 – Erik Molvar, the Sagebrush Sea Campaign Director for WildEarth Guardians, talks about retiring livestock grazing permits, oil and gas issues, a uranium mine in Wyoming and public lands issues. Listen HERE.

4/15/15 – Carol Walker, Dir. of Field Documentation for Wild Horse Freedom Federation on western wild horses under siege. Listen HERE.

5/6/15 – Marjorie Farabee, Director of Wild Burro Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation and Simone Netherlands, founder of respect 4 horses organization, on the BLM’s plans to remove wild burros from the Black Mountain HMA in Arizona. Listen HERE.

5/13/15 – HOWARD LYMAN, (featured in Cowspiracy and author of “Mad Cowboy” and “No More Bull.”) Lyman stated his opinion of the risk of Mad Cow disease on the Oprah Winfrey Show in 1996, and he, Oprah and Harpo productions were sued by Texas cattlemen.  Listen HERE.

6/17/15 – R.T. and Terry Fitch of Wild Horse Freedom Federation on equine disaster preparedness and evacuation.  Listen HERE.

7/29/15 – MARJORIE FARABEE, Dir. of Wild Burro Affairs for Wild Horse Freedom Federation and SEAN PATON, journalist, radio host (Forum Antilles) and founder of Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) BICEPS BONAIRE, on saving the wild donkeys of Bonaire.  Listen HERE.

8/5/15 – Carol Walker, Dir. of Field Documentation for Wild Horse Freedom Federation, on the BLM’s plans to STERILIZE wild  horses, including the FIELD SPAYING OF WILD MARES.  Listen HERE.

8/7/15 – R.T. Fitch, Pres. of Wild Horse Freedom Federation, and Debbie Coffey discuss Forest Service plans to roundup the Salt River wild horses In the Tonto National Forest in Arizona, and misc. topics.  Listen HERE.

8/12/15 – Ginger Kathrens, Founder and Executive Director of The Cloud Foundation.  Ginger will be giving us an update on Cloud the Stallion and the wild horses in the Pryor Mountains in Montana.  Listen HERE.

9/2/15 – Susan Wagner, Pres. & Founder of Equine Advocates, and Susan Kayne, creator of TV show Real Horse Rescues on ABC-WTEN, with Dr. Ray Kellosalmi and Paula Bacon, on mainstream media’s poor coverage of horse meat in the U.S. food supply, over 90,000 PMU mares trapped in torturous conditions while having their pregnant mare urine collected in China, and other equine welfare issues.  Listen HERE.

9/9/15 – Sinikka Crosland, Exec. Dir. of Canadian Horse Defence Coalition, people and national groups that have joined together to ban the slaughter of equines for human consumption in Canada, as well as the export of live horses to other countries for the same purpose.  Listen HERE.

10/28/15 – author Terri Farley, who will be talking about her new book, “Wild at Heart: Mustangs and the Young People Fighting to Save Them.”  Listen HERE.

11/4/15 – Victoria Racimo, director of One Day, a film chronicling the life of racing champion Our Mims and the Thoroughbred retirement sanctuary that bears her name (which was founded by Jeanne Mirabito).  Listen HERE.



  1. For those that didn’t get a chance to hear the show live, DO listen to the archived show. The following article covers some of what was discussed.

    Myths, Half-Truths, and Lies of the Commercial Carriage Horse Industry (excerpts)
    Posted on February 1, 2014 by heatherclemenceau

    In 2007, Bill Thompson, then New York City Comptroller, announced the findings of an audit (http://comptroller.nyc.gov/wp-content/uploads/documents/MH07_092A.pdf)
    that cited numerous problems in the carriage horse industry.

    How Restorative is the Mandated Five Weeks Vacation for NYC Carriage Horses?
    There are many reasons why, in my opinion, this mandated “vacation” isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Especially if it isn’t actually a holiday if horses are sent to Amish country for their R&R, where they are, unbeknownst to the average person, used as work horses on farms they are loaned to.

    How Can an Association With the Cavalry Group Be a Good Thing?
    Think “Waterloo” and immediately the phrase, “catastrophic failure” comes to mind…… On its website, the extreme right-wing Cavalry Group declares that animal rights “extremists” are working to advance a “vegan agenda.” They have opposed several “animal rights” measures around the U.S., including a ballot question in Missouri to crack down on puppy mills and a referendum in North Dakota that would make it a felony to maliciously and intentionally harm dogs, cats or horses. They also oppose the SAFE Act to stop sending American horses to be slaughtered, and they have resisted anti-soring legislation for Big Lick horses, and they resist pretty much any and all efforts to upgrade anti-cruelty laws. It should come as no surprise that The Cavalry Group is based in Missouri which has the worst puppy mills in the nation. Even the Better Business Bureau refers to Missouri as the “capital of puppy mills in the US.” Any group that aligns themselves with people who find Big Lick soring in any way acceptable and who mount a charge to OPPOSE the passage of this Bill deserve failure.
    Here’s a list of what they oppose (http://the-cavalry-group.rallycongress.com/)

    Is the Stabling for the NYC Carriage Horses as Adequate as We’ve Been Told?
    These are NOT pets of the carriage operators –-they are tools of a business. By law their stalls must be a minimum of 64 square feet, which is pretty small by most people’s standards unless you own a pony or a couple of minis. I don’t believe any of the buildings have sufficiently large enough stalls for these larger breeds of horses.

    Are the NYC Carriage Horses Really “The Most Regulated Horses in the Country, if Not The World?”
    Furthermore the ASPCA has recently dismantled its Humane Law Enforcement Division in NYC. Over the past few years, the ASPCA’s humane law enforcement division has handled about 4,000 investigations annually and made about one arrest per week (for all species of animal). The agents wore uniforms, flashed badges, carried guns, traveled in blue-and-white squad cars, and for years starred in “Animal Precinct,” but now the ASPCA has laid off almost all of its 18 law enforcement agents and is now leaving those responsibilities solely to the New York City Police Department. Without a team focused on animal abuse, enforcement will almost certainly be given a lower priority by officers dealing with the full spectrum of human crimes.

    How Well Can Two Grain Meals During a Work Shift Suffice for Working Carriage Horses?
    For more info on horses’ natural diets, check out the eBooks Horses Were Born to Be On Grass and Horses Without Grass.

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  2. I have a question. In Banning horse drawn carriages are you also saying that you are against pony carts and the average hay rides as well as recreational show driving? I know many who physically are unable to ride who depend on carts as wagons to keep them involved in horses. I personally think city safety is a serious issue how ever I am trying to understand if this is An overall banning of anything with wheels. We have to be careful as to Not destroy the connection to equines some enjoy and Not put more horses at risk. We are in the heart of Amish territory in Illinois as Arthur and Arcola are two communities which really train alot of Amish horses that are Road safe and usable for many purposes including shows..trails…and personal relaxation. The Larger cities have larger risks but by and large Riding and handling untrained horses poses the Highest death rate in horses as trainers and owners hide the abuse that injures fatally multitudes of horses each yr. I have seen and heard of alot of injuries in Carriage horses from private contacts in larger Cities but if we remove an Entire Industry we are Destroying where these horses go. So again my query is are you trying to shut down All carts and wagons as well? I have driven for decades without any major incident personally. Seen alot but thank God we have been fortunate.


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